/* timestamps not available due to me not having logging enabled yet */ Chiv, RubahSergal, Archie, irick, Montrosity, Taoki, woob: agris was just banned from furnet. Ohhhh, huh... * Vogelle licks the brain Oh dear @w@ * woob gets an earful of raptor tongue? bleh.. taste like earwax Oh nooooo x3 No one cares about agris? oh jeez, what for? and sorry, mid-raid at the moment "Immature/Underage" was he actually underage? heck Huh.... I'd uh, certainly hope not... wolf.furnet.org: *** You are banned from FurNet (Immature/Underage) I uhh... talked it out with someone entirely uninvolved and they think she prolly spooked the admin with mentions of lawyers No of course not Of course she's not underage * agris has quit (Killed (Lymril (#FurNet: I would like to request the full IP address and nickserv registration email of the perpetrator, so that my lawyer may send a cease and desist letter))) <---- have you known her to back down? Ergh... I mean, I remember Agris has had some odd moments... I'm not sure exactly what to think, I think someone here did end up leaving because of Agris as well... /* logging enabled, still in chronological order */ **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 31 00:23:26 2022 Mar 31 00:24:15 Agris is being defamed, stalked and harassed, getting banned in many places and now the entirety of furnet, probably with forged "evidence" Mar 31 00:24:45 And what do you mean odd moments, woob? Mar 31 00:25:04 Do we know who banned him? Mar 31 00:25:22 Ehhh, being kind of, I don't know the word right now, headstrong about some stuff? Mar 31 00:25:35 I'd guess the same lymril who kicked him earlier? Mar 31 00:34:59 Agris struck me as someone with social difficulties who did not handle it well when their interactions did not go as planned, which would then consistently compound with the negative interaction and create a feedback loop. Mar 31 00:36:00 I don't think they held malicious intent but they were surely misguided and in need of help. Furnet (and the Internet as a whole) is not a healthy environment for individuals like that. Mar 31 00:38:31 What do you mean? I never noticed something like that from Agris? Mar 31 00:39:22 They contacted me in PM at one point and tried to get me to preemptively ban Bismuthtine in case they tried to come back to this channel. Mar 31 00:39:33 jesus christ Mar 31 00:39:41 wow, that's petty Mar 31 00:39:59 Bismuth is who I was talking about earlier Mar 31 00:40:07 As evidence, Agris pasted some logs that really didn't support their perception of the issue, and showed Bismuthtine was acting rationally and calmly. Mar 31 00:40:40 And Agris could not show anything that supported the "defamation" angle. Mar 31 00:41:01 That is... damning Mar 31 00:42:00 They also took issue with me not permitting them to use the channel topic as their personal soapbox Mar 31 00:42:17 Agris's own misconduct landed them in the position they were in, but they lashed out at anyone who tried to correct them or reign them in. Mar 31 00:43:19 The situation is... way worse than I had thought... Mar 31 00:43:37 yeah, no that's about what I expected actually Mar 31 00:43:40 Also, that was a couple of months ago and they were still making comments about getting a lawyer involved back then. Not self aware enough to realize using scare tactics makes them into the bully they thought they were fighting. Mar 31 00:44:35 Hol up Mar 31 00:44:39 But it's about an hour past daiquiri'o'clock so I should probably stop speaking about semi-serious business. Mar 31 00:45:23 * Vogelle homfs archies ear. Very serious nomming buisiness. Mar 31 00:46:13 * Archie acks, rolls over, and gives Vogelle a very lime-flavored slurp! Mar 31 00:46:47 Yeah uh, I had asked Bis when Agris was regularly asking about them, and IIRC they had told me Agris was harassing them... Mar 31 00:46:56 * Vogelle acks, notices the lime flavour and... struggles free slightly slower to enjoy some Mar 31 00:47:16 And all this puts those inquiries into an... even worse light Mar 31 00:47:48 Has Bistmuthine been banned anywhere? Mar 31 00:47:58 * Archie , as per usual, pursues Vogelle to keep mouthing at the raptor. Looooots of tongue and gentle teeth. Mar 31 00:48:04 Not to my knowledge. Mar 31 00:48:08 Agris did Mar 31 00:48:08 Not that I know of? Mar 31 00:48:31 The claims were that Bismuthtine got Agris chased out of/banned from some muck they were both on. Mar 31 00:48:48 Because that's what happened Mar 31 00:48:53 SqueakyRubberfolf, that's... not evidence in favor of the agris did nothing wrong position you know.... Mar 31 00:49:15 Okay fair. I have better stuff to say. Mar 31 00:49:45 and frankly SqueakyRubberfolf I saw how agris was about their thing with azure. They are absolutely the type to 'accidentally' stalk and harrass someone. Mar 31 00:50:03 (Is SqueakyRubberfolf Agris?) Mar 31 00:50:11 No Mar 31 00:50:12 (no) Mar 31 00:50:17 I am me Mar 31 00:50:24 Ah, alright Mar 31 00:50:41 Were you witness to any of this, or supplied with logs, folf? Mar 31 00:51:20 Because the logs I was shown, by Agris themself, did not paint them in the best light. And they refused to provide more context. Mar 31 00:51:25 But Agris got banned from spindizzy for no reason. Only after the fact Agris figured out that she was being defamed and admins were being lied to, presumably by bistmuthine who originally caused the conflict from banning agris from public rooms Mar 31 00:51:36 * Vogelle eeps and "attempts to avoid" the licks and nibbles. Pay no attentiont he the pleased chirps. Mar 31 00:52:29 presumably? Mar 31 00:52:41 It all happens behind her back Mar 31 00:53:07 I have logs Mar 31 00:53:56 I still have to go over a lot of them, though. Mar 31 00:56:04 * Archie wiggles and flops on the ground to chase Vogelle, playfully snapping his jaws at and around her, with his trademark carefulness. Mar 31 00:56:16 * woob hrrrphs, splays out Mar 31 00:57:18 * Vogelle miiight choose to hide behind woob. Certainly not to get her involved in the play since she has to run to the store... Mar 31 00:57:34 Oh dear =v= Mar 31 00:58:57 * Archie will indiscriminately homf woobs too! He might be getting a little carried away. Vixens do have a similarly nice mouth feel. Mar 31 00:59:44 Yeeeeep! Mar 31 01:00:03 * woob wiggles and squirms herself around, giggling and pressing her paws around at Archie's jaws =//= Mar 31 01:01:32 * Archie squeezes his jaws around woob gently, pressing back against her paws. His tail thumps away at the floor. Mar 31 01:01:49 I think imma go play games for a bit. Mar 31 01:02:14 How do you guys feel about agris being banned? Mar 31 01:04:12 * woob hrrrhhfs and finally lets herself flump into Archie's jaws, squelching against his tongue and hugging around it as she lets her tail flick around, rubbing a paw along that warm, squishy muscle Mar 31 01:07:02 It doesn't seem you guys care that much, interspersing rp at this time trying to drown out the conversation Mar 31 01:08:40 If you want my thoughts that bad, I can say your pressing the conversation has had it bring out a lot of revelations about Agris that I had not previously been privy to Mar 31 01:08:41 I think it was an inevitability based on their character, as they chose to interact with me in private. Mar 31 01:09:16 I didn't push for it, but it's not the least bit surprising for me. Mar 31 01:09:24 While I've had good moments with them, they seem like a troubled person, and this conversation has only made me less surprised that it's gotten them into this kind of trouble Mar 31 01:14:44 But you guys think it's fine agris is banned for the reason "Immature/Underage"? Mar 31 01:14:44 I can only hope the best for them as a person, but this isn't an issue thats particularly straightforward or easy to feel particularly compelled by... Mar 31 01:15:08 Something has to be up right? If agris is banned for a false reason like that? Mar 31 01:15:18 I think it's an oversimplification, but the reason is there. Mar 31 01:15:54 And what do you base that on? Mar 31 01:17:11 * Vogelle has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) Mar 31 01:18:16 They were harassing people and spreading drama into unaffiliated channels. Mar 31 01:22:29 Do you have an example? Mar 31 01:24:21 * Vogelle (~uwu@64.141.16.178) has joined Mar 31 01:24:21 * ChanServ gives channel half-operator status to Vogelle Mar 31 01:25:11 I really think this is an issue to go to the actual admins with, rather than trying to court public opinion over it... Mar 31 01:25:57 Agris was an admin here Mar 31 01:26:32 I'm a half-op... clearly that doesn't mean too much ;p Mar 31 01:27:17 I mean the server admins responsible for those decisions Mar 31 01:31:33 * Chompy (~chompy@fur-C0DDAF39.gci.net) has joined Mar 31 01:31:33 * ChanServ gives voice to Chompy Mar 31 01:32:11 What about you guys as Agris's peers? If something like this happens to one of your peers and you just handwave it away? Does everyone here feel that way about Agris? Mar 31 01:32:48 Would it matter to you guys if you saw evidence Agris was the victim here? Mar 31 01:32:54 * Arias_Ducalli has quit (Connection reset by peer) Mar 31 01:33:39 O.o Mar 31 01:34:26 I directly told her two days ago that she should probably lay low for a while if she wanted to limit the damage and then she made legal threats to the network admins Mar 31 01:35:37 What happened to Agris? Mar 31 01:35:54 They got banned from the network Mar 31 01:36:47 what did they do? Mar 31 01:38:03 I think they got into some kind of scuffle with the admins or something, I'm not privy to the full details... Mar 31 01:38:53 Chompy, they did this Mar 31 01:38:54 wolf.furnet.org: *** You are banned from FurNet (Immature/Underage) Mar 31 01:39:32 Agris is apparently banned for "Immature/Underage" Mar 31 01:39:33 How? Mar 31 01:39:46 why Mar 31 01:39:48 dont you Mar 31 01:39:48 ask the people Mar 31 01:39:50 So they don't actually know if they're underage? Mar 31 01:39:50 that banned him Mar 31 01:40:12 uhh Mar 31 01:40:14 immature Mar 31 01:40:18 Sorry Mar 31 01:41:11 :/ Mar 31 01:41:42 underage Mar 31 01:41:45 but where is the proof? Mar 31 01:41:53 How random Mar 31 01:42:18 immature Mar 31 01:42:23 first half of that Mar 31 01:42:28 as in 'acts immature' Mar 31 01:42:53 * Vaughn (~Spider@fur-D1E0E890.clsp.qwest.net) has joined Mar 31 01:42:53 * ChanServ gives voice to Vaughn Mar 31 01:43:14 What a vague reason Mar 31 01:44:59 The only thing your persistent agitation in this channel has accomplished is make it even more clear to everyone here that there is far more behind the issue than the "immature" drum that you keep on beating Mar 31 01:45:15 s/immature/underage/ Mar 31 01:45:27 Yes. There is much more. Much much more. Mar 31 01:45:47 I swear to god whenever I join this channel earlier than late evening I see two jackasses arguing about something stupid. ::V Mar 31 01:45:57 But it's all bullshit. It all happens behind Agris's back. Mar 31 01:46:02 * Chompy curls up Mar 31 01:46:10 Vaughn, you think Agris getting banned is something stupid? Mar 31 01:46:34 Sorry for being a jackass, I'm kind of getting rubbed a bit raw over it here... Mar 31 01:47:00 I don't keep up enough with this channel's politics to know or care what kinds of sway they held/hold. Mar 31 01:47:07 I just always show up to some kind of argument over something. Mar 31 01:47:13 were they harassing admins or something Mar 31 01:47:32 Don't know who they are, or what they did, aside from me seeing their name in here from time to time ::P Mar 31 01:47:33 * Vogelle attempts to rub woob soft? :3 Mar 31 01:47:36 klined, maybe even glined for a false and ridiculous reason Mar 31 01:49:02 Don't know who did it or what for. Mar 31 01:49:24 Don't really care either, tbh. ::P Mar 31 01:49:33 Does anyone object to me halting the issue here? Mar 31 01:49:34 Chompy, all agris did to the admins was asking the network admins to share IP address and email of who's been bullying and harassing them so their lawyer can send them a cease and desist letter Mar 31 01:50:19 feel free woob Mar 31 01:50:38 * rynzai (~rynzai@fur-B5A14929.bklycmtk03.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) has joined Mar 31 01:50:38 * ChanServ gives voice to rynzai Mar 31 01:50:43 No objections. Mar 31 01:50:47 Alright Mar 31 01:51:32 So it seems you guys don't care Mar 31 01:51:37 SqueakyRubberfolf: The conversation ends here. Any further lines pushing the issue will be met with administrative action. Mar 31 01:52:01 All issues you have with me can be sent to my DMs. That's all. ::P Mar 31 01:52:35 Not in the interest of bothering others with public drama. Mar 31 01:52:54 If anyone cares, PM me Mar 31 01:52:57 What about public sex? Mar 31 01:53:05 That's just a good time, Vogelle. Mar 31 01:53:58 * woob flumps into Vogelle, hrrrgh Mar 31 02:01:27 * Archie nibbles woob and Vogelle some more. Just a little, though. Mar 31 02:01:49 * Vaughn scritches Vogelle's head. Mar 31 02:02:28 * woob leans into the nibbles, some huge canine jaws feel a lot more welcome at this point xwx Mar 31 02:02:53 * Vogelle closes her eyes and enjoys headscritches, as if she has a choice trapped beneath woob and with her tail in archies mouth. Mar 31 02:04:22 FiSHLiM plugin unloaded **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 31 02:04:22 2022 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 31 02:04:51 2022 Mar 31 02:04:51 * Now talking on #vore Mar 31 02:04:51 * Topic for #vore is: [ 18 + . . . Well Aged Steaks Apply ] Welcome to #vore | Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and a fried egg on top, and Spam Mar 31 02:04:51 * Topic for #vore set by RubahSergal (Sat Mar 26 21:45:59 2022) Mar 31 02:04:51 * ChanServ gives voice to SqueakyRubberfolf Mar 31 02:05:07 Speak of the devil and he shall appear! Mar 31 02:05:26 * Arias_Ducalli (~androirc@c-76-115-66-43.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined Mar 31 02:05:26 * ChanServ gives voice to Arias_Ducalli Mar 31 02:05:29 Was talking mad shit about you Folf. Saying how I hope you'll be alright. Mar 31 02:07:11 very brutal Mar 31 02:09:03 Vaughn, what do you mean? Mar 31 02:09:17 You just seem stressed. I was hoping you'd be okay. Mar 31 02:10:33 Yeah well it sucks to see my friend getting ostracized everywhere, and no one even caring. Mar 31 02:12:37 Sorry to hear, darling. Mar 31 02:12:43 have a cute https://i.redd.it/eo98175x0jq81.jpg Mar 31 02:12:54 Pretty cat. Mar 31 02:21:36 It's not that nobody cares, but unfortunately there's not really anything that can be done. Trying to "debate" the banning is not going to help, and pushing about it everywhere is likely going to get similar results on your own end unfortunately. The IRC Network isn't a democracy, for better or worse, and unfortunately in this case Agris poked the wrong person a few too many times. Mar 31 02:22:06 It's something several folks tried to warn them about, but unfortunately, said warnings were not heeded Mar 31 02:23:03 I'm not saying he deserved to be banned, but if your friends tell you not to poke the beehive with a stick, and you keep poking the beehive anyways... eventually you're gonna get stung, and there's no undoing it. Best option is for him to appeal the ban in the appropriate manner, after the proper amount of time. Mar 31 02:24:08 It's been happening in more places, and all with very vague reasons, as if there's a group of people doing it behind their back. Mar 31 02:24:57 But you guys aren't open to hearing that. You guys just go "oh whatever, let's move on" as if it's normal. Mar 31 02:25:10 Because there's literally no point in debating it. Mar 31 02:25:18 It's not gonna undo it. ::P Mar 31 02:25:43 What would you have people do? Mar 31 02:25:51 Well I'm raising awareness Mar 31 02:26:01 ...For what? Mar 31 02:26:05 And why? Mar 31 02:26:05 Okay, we're aware, now what? Mar 31 02:26:18 Raising awareness does jack shit if there's nothing anyone can do. Mar 31 02:27:27 Chiv, well if you'd care about agris you'd move this channel to a different network after seeing something like this happen to your friends. Mar 31 02:27:41 The channel isn't going anywhere Mar 31 02:27:42 That's a lot to ask for one person getting banned my guy. Mar 31 02:27:50 Like that's a LOT to ask. Mar 31 02:28:13 Agris poked me about that beforehand, and you're expecting literally everyone in here to move to an entirely different server network Mar 31 02:28:19 You'd have literally everyone here displaced because your friend got banned? Mar 31 02:28:29 Like I'm sorry your friend got banned, but that's ludicrous. Mar 31 02:28:30 I cannot just pick up everyone here and drag them somewhere else Mar 31 02:28:42 if someone wants to host a vore channel on another network, and invite them? They're perfectly free to do so. Mar 31 02:28:49 ^ Mar 31 02:30:01 Agris already was poking me about that *before* he got banned, and as I explained to them then: Mar 31 02:30:41 A. I may be admin of this server, but I'm literally only such as a deadman switch. If I don't show up long enough, the channel goes poof and anybody can grab control Mar 31 02:31:30 B. I don't have the tech, knowhow, or most importantly time to redirect/mirror this channel elsewhere. Mar 31 02:33:12 Well why don't you reach out to agris, Chiv? Mar 31 02:34:07 Unfortunately, far as I'm aware from prior discussion with him, we don't share another communication center besides this IRC network. Mar 31 02:53:06 * woob yawns Mar 31 02:54:49 What a great community though. Getting threatened for administrative action trying to raise awareness of the false banning and ostracization agris is going through. No one cares about each other, and if you speak up, you get silenced. Mar 31 02:54:52 * Disconnected () **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 31 02:54:52 2022